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		<title>By: Too Much Joy’s Crazy Royalty Statement &#124; ExploreMusic</title>
		<link>http://www.toomuchjoy.com/index.php/2009/12/my-hilarious-warner-bros-royalty-statement/comment-page-2/#comment-17757</link>
		<dc:creator>Too Much Joy’s Crazy Royalty Statement &#124; ExploreMusic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 03:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of the best things I read all week was a blog by Tim Quirk, the former singer for a band called Too Much [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Sue Mingus</title>
		<link>http://www.toomuchjoy.com/index.php/2009/12/my-hilarious-warner-bros-royalty-statement/comment-page-2/#comment-10862</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Mingus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear dear hilarious Rant Person,  You speak for all of us and  brought
joy to my holidays just to see the truth so magnificently laid out. Bless you!-- Sue Mingus

Some happy new year music below from our band&#039;s CD--  (released independently)

 http://mingusmingusmingus.com/holiday10/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear dear hilarious Rant Person,  You speak for all of us and  brought<br />
joy to my holidays just to see the truth so magnificently laid out. Bless you!&#8211; Sue Mingus</p>
<p>Some happy new year music below from our band&#8217;s CD&#8211;  (released independently)</p>
<p> <a href="http://mingusmingusmingus.com/holiday10/" rel="nofollow">http://mingusmingusmingus.com/holiday10/</a></p>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s not an investment, it&#8217;s a loan!</title>
		<link>http://www.toomuchjoy.com/index.php/2009/12/my-hilarious-warner-bros-royalty-statement/comment-page-2/#comment-9636</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s not an investment, it&#8217;s a loan!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] http://www.toomuchjoy.com/index.php/2009/12/my-hilarious-warner-bros-royalty-statement/ [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Too Much Joy» Blog Archive » My Hilarious Warner Bros. Royalty Statement — lee aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.toomuchjoy.com/index.php/2009/12/my-hilarious-warner-bros-royalty-statement/comment-page-2/#comment-9267</link>
		<dc:creator>Too Much Joy» Blog Archive » My Hilarious Warner Bros. Royalty Statement — lee aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] accounting, and Warner Bros. turns out to be inept, incompetent, uncaring, and negligent. Who knew? Read the article on their website.   //         Cancel [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] accounting, and Warner Bros. turns out to be inept, incompetent, uncaring, and negligent. Who knew? Read the article on their website.   //         Cancel [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would like to know if you ever received a final outcome to your requests on royalty statements from Warner.  We are trying to work out how to follow sales of one of our own artists and match them to royalty statements]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would like to know if you ever received a final outcome to your requests on royalty statements from Warner.  We are trying to work out how to follow sales of one of our own artists and match them to royalty statements</p>
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		<title>By: Ziemia Niczyja &#124; Mariusz Herma &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Best Music Writing 2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ziemia Niczyja &#124; Mariusz Herma &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Best Music Writing 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] TIMOTHY QUIRK &#8211; My Hilarious Warner Bros. Royalty Statement &#8211; Too Much Joy [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: An Explanation Of My Views On Copyright Part Two &#171; Through the Looking Glass</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Explanation Of My Views On Copyright Part Two &#171; Through the Looking Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chevdo, I&#039;m sorry you think I&#039;m a hypocrite, but the numbers you cited in your first comment were wrong. You stated, &quot;Rhapsody pays .001 dollars (one tenth of a cent) per download.&quot; That is false. Rhapsody does sell downloads (http://mp3.rhapsody.com), and as far as I can see from my IODA statements pays the owners of sound recordings the same wholesale rates on those downloads as most every other service.

If you think the royalty rates for on demand streams are too low, that&#039;s a different argument, but again, my IODA statement confirms Rhapsody is paying the same thing for on demand streams as most other services, and the market rate for those tends to be in the pennies. 

Your argument is not with Rhapsody, it is with the phenomenon of online streaming in general. You&#039;re free to call it a scam; personally, I think it&#039;s the future of the music business, and we&#039;d all do well to stop insisting it earn the exact same amount as sales used to, and start figuring out how to make it earn more.

My argument with Warner isn&#039;t that they&#039;re not collecting enough from services like Rhapsody on my behalf. My argument is that, however small the amounts they&#039;re collecting might be, they have the ability to report those amounts accurately (just as CD Baby is doing for you), and they are failing to do so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chevdo, I&#8217;m sorry you think I&#8217;m a hypocrite, but the numbers you cited in your first comment were wrong. You stated, &#8220;Rhapsody pays .001 dollars (one tenth of a cent) per download.&#8221; That is false. Rhapsody does sell downloads (<a href="http://mp3.rhapsody.com" rel="nofollow">http://mp3.rhapsody.com</a>), and as far as I can see from my IODA statements pays the owners of sound recordings the same wholesale rates on those downloads as most every other service.</p>
<p>If you think the royalty rates for on demand streams are too low, that&#8217;s a different argument, but again, my IODA statement confirms Rhapsody is paying the same thing for on demand streams as most other services, and the market rate for those tends to be in the pennies. </p>
<p>Your argument is not with Rhapsody, it is with the phenomenon of online streaming in general. You&#8217;re free to call it a scam; personally, I think it&#8217;s the future of the music business, and we&#8217;d all do well to stop insisting it earn the exact same amount as sales used to, and start figuring out how to make it earn more.</p>
<p>My argument with Warner isn&#8217;t that they&#8217;re not collecting enough from services like Rhapsody on my behalf. My argument is that, however small the amounts they&#8217;re collecting might be, they have the ability to report those amounts accurately (just as CD Baby is doing for you), and they are failing to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: chevdo</title>
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		<dc:creator>chevdo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim, my reaction to your response is very similar to the reaction you described yourself having when reading your Warner digital-revenue accounting and compared it to your digital-revenue accounting from your IODA digital-revenue accounting.  It is as ridiculous to claim that I earned 5 cents from Rhapsody over the same amount of time that I earned 50 dollars from Itunes as it was for Warner to claim that you earned $62.47 over the same amount of time that you earned $12000.   

You say I must be confusing downloads with on-demand streams. No, I&#039;m not confused, I know exactly how this scam works inspite of your attempt at obfuscation.  Does Rhapsody even sell downloads?  Because I don&#039;t see any on my accounting statements, just a bunch of worthless streams.  And when I see a Rhapsody television commercial, they certainly don&#039;t say anything about buying downloads, they go on and on about how fabulous it is to not have to pay for downloads because for a flat rate fee you can get as many high-quality streams as you want, and that flat fee can be so low BECAUSE RHAPSODY DOESN&#039;T PAY THE ARTISTS.  Who is going to buy a track to download when they can stream the same quality any time they want to, from any location?  The consumer doesn&#039;t even have to waste storage space on mp3s, since Rhapsody is doing that for them.  Big win for the consumer.  Big win for Rhapsody.  BIG SCAM FOR THE POOR SUCKERS PROVIDING THE CONTENT.

I stand by my claim that you are a hypocrite.  And if being a hypocrite bothers you, then I guess you&#039;ve got your own ethical hangups.  Personally I find hypocrisy to be ubiquitous and ordinary.  And while most people are probably hypocritical frequently, I suspect there are more potent skelletons in the closets of  most people.  Unless you&#039;re supposed to be somebody&#039;s hero, I wouldn&#039;t worry about it, just keep cashing those Rhapsody paychecks - at least somebody is extracting cash from those scumbags..  if you can&#039;t beat &#039;em, join &#039;em, right??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, my reaction to your response is very similar to the reaction you described yourself having when reading your Warner digital-revenue accounting and compared it to your digital-revenue accounting from your IODA digital-revenue accounting.  It is as ridiculous to claim that I earned 5 cents from Rhapsody over the same amount of time that I earned 50 dollars from Itunes as it was for Warner to claim that you earned $62.47 over the same amount of time that you earned $12000.   </p>
<p>You say I must be confusing downloads with on-demand streams. No, I&#8217;m not confused, I know exactly how this scam works inspite of your attempt at obfuscation.  Does Rhapsody even sell downloads?  Because I don&#8217;t see any on my accounting statements, just a bunch of worthless streams.  And when I see a Rhapsody television commercial, they certainly don&#8217;t say anything about buying downloads, they go on and on about how fabulous it is to not have to pay for downloads because for a flat rate fee you can get as many high-quality streams as you want, and that flat fee can be so low BECAUSE RHAPSODY DOESN&#8217;T PAY THE ARTISTS.  Who is going to buy a track to download when they can stream the same quality any time they want to, from any location?  The consumer doesn&#8217;t even have to waste storage space on mp3s, since Rhapsody is doing that for them.  Big win for the consumer.  Big win for Rhapsody.  BIG SCAM FOR THE POOR SUCKERS PROVIDING THE CONTENT.</p>
<p>I stand by my claim that you are a hypocrite.  And if being a hypocrite bothers you, then I guess you&#8217;ve got your own ethical hangups.  Personally I find hypocrisy to be ubiquitous and ordinary.  And while most people are probably hypocritical frequently, I suspect there are more potent skelletons in the closets of  most people.  Unless you&#8217;re supposed to be somebody&#8217;s hero, I wouldn&#8217;t worry about it, just keep cashing those Rhapsody paychecks &#8211; at least somebody is extracting cash from those scumbags..  if you can&#8217;t beat &#8216;em, join &#8216;em, right??</p>
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		<title>By: Corporate Copyright Scofflaws 0006 – The RIAA Member Companies &#171; Through the Looking Glass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corporate Copyright Scofflaws 0006 – The RIAA Member Companies &#171; Through the Looking Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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